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* [[Being a serious student]]
 
* [[Being a serious student]]
 
** Elevated, philosophic texts written by a true human (or superhuman) require careful reading.
 
** Elevated, philosophic texts written by a true human (or superhuman) require careful reading.
*** While this is case with any great, reflective text, The Urantia Book stand above all others.  Nothing else on earth comes close.
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*** The Urantia Book stands above all other great texts on earth.  Nothing else comes close.
** Know when to take the reading simplistically at face value, and when to reflect deeper to get at the complexity.
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*** Knowing when read simplistically at face value, and when to reflect deeper to get at the complexity... that's an art that takes cultivation and practice.
** Start with truth, a philosophic frame, then engage the facts (the sentences in the 5th ER).
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** Start with a philosophic frame (truth that can't be defined with words), then engage the facts (the words in the 5th ER).
 
*** To outsiders it will appear you're ''ad hoc'' rationalizing  
 
*** To outsiders it will appear you're ''ad hoc'' rationalizing  
*** But you can know better.  '''Consistency is a philosophic truth-like word, not a scientific fact word.'''
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*** But you can know better.  '''Consistency is a philosophic concept, not a scientific concept.'''
 
** [[Aim higher]]:  ''Your goal: reach a level above controversy.'''   
 
** [[Aim higher]]:  ''Your goal: reach a level above controversy.'''   
*** Can you take the personal challenge of getting above controversy? Not being subject to it or ruled by it?
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*** A personal challenge: getting above controversy. Can you not being subject to it or ruled by it?
*** With the 5th ER.  With all people.  With politics.  With everything under the sun.
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*** All controversy!  Within the 5th ER.  With all people.  With politics.  With everything under the sun.
 
*** Controversy is a product of subjective consciousness
 
*** Controversy is a product of subjective consciousness
 
*** Genuinely objective consciousness has no controversy.  It has a peace that passes all understanding.
 
*** Genuinely objective consciousness has no controversy.  It has a peace that passes all understanding.
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*** It means an objective frame where you see the world from the eternity viewpoint.
 
*** It means an objective frame where you see the world from the eternity viewpoint.
 
** Does The Urantia Book appear controversial?
 
** Does The Urantia Book appear controversial?
*** If you don't engage the 5th ER reflectively, you will find nothing but abject controversy.   
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*** If you don't engage it reflectively, you will find nothing but abject controversy.   
 
*** A teacher of The Urantia Book who sees controversy in it is a false teacher.
 
*** A teacher of The Urantia Book who sees controversy in it is a false teacher.
** The cultivation of reflective thinking: We have, by grace, a reality response.  If you pause and reflect, by grace, you can cultivate the use of this faculty.
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** Remember: We have, by grace, a reality response.  We can take delight in cultivating [[reflective thinking]]
  
  
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*** The ''fact'' of growth is based on the Absolute Actuals.
 
*** The ''fact'' of growth is based on the Absolute Actuals.
 
*** The ''ability'' for something to be growing comes out of the Absolute Potentials.
 
*** The ''ability'' for something to be growing comes out of the Absolute Potentials.
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** Supremacy is superadditively above finity.
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*** You don't just add power and personality together.  You super-add them, and get above the finite.
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*** The Supreme Being transcendently stands above the finite, in the absonite, as The Supreme Mind.  The encompasser.
  
  
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** Power-personality synthesis: The Supreme Being, aka The Supreme Mind  
 
** Power-personality synthesis: The Supreme Being, aka The Supreme Mind  
 
*** Also aka ''The Supreme Father'', as in the downstepping of The Universal Father to the total finite.
 
*** Also aka ''The Supreme Father'', as in the downstepping of The Universal Father to the total finite.
*** Personality is the root.  This is top-down.  Power is added to personality.
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*** Personality is the root.  Power is added to personality.  This is top-down.
 
** A familiar threefold order: unity, individuality, associativity.
 
** A familiar threefold order: unity, individuality, associativity.
 
*** The first 2 of these are "down in" the finite.
 
*** The first 2 of these are "down in" the finite.
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* The Father-I AM.  What is this?
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* The absolute actuality is: energy, spirit, and mind.
** A monistic concept: only a single stuff in play
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* The Paradise Isle, Second Source and Center, Third Source and Center.
** "Before" energy and spirit were differentiated.
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** But think about the ''purposing'' of these actualities we see in [115:7.3]:
** The Supreme is how The Father-I AM escapes pure existential-ness.
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*** power (''purposed'' energy)
*** Father Deity has no capacity for experience... it is Father Deity!
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*** personality (spirit ''pattern'')
*** Mother Deity allows for capacity of experience.  Mother Deity is why the capacity for experience exists anywhere.
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*** action (''synthesis'')
*** The Father is not directly planning, in substance, down in time.  He stands outside of time.  And yet, he fits into all of this.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* Supremacy is superadditively above finity.
 
** You don't just add power and personality together.  You super-add them, and get above the finite.
 
** The Supreme Being transcendently stands above the finite, in the absonite, as The Supreme Mind.  The encompasser.
 
** focalizer (Mother Supreme), summarizer (Almighty Supreme), encompasser (The Supreme Being)
 
** source (the Paradise Trinity), function (the universe of activity), destiny (The Trinity Ultimate).
 
*** The Trinity Ultimate: Deity nature coming together as one. 
 
  
  
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** Note [115:7.2] alludes to the [[eight-fold path to progress]]: effort, perseverance (determination), faith...
 
** Note [115:7.2] alludes to the [[eight-fold path to progress]]: effort, perseverance (determination), faith...
 
*** The eight-fold path to progress also is an intrinsic part of the design of our universe.
 
*** The eight-fold path to progress also is an intrinsic part of the design of our universe.
 
 
* The absolute actuality is: energy, spirit, and mind.
 
* The Paradise Isle, Second Source and Center, Third Source and Center.
 
** But think about the ''purposing'' of these actualities we see in [115:7.3]:
 
*** power (purposed energy)
 
*** personality (spirit pattern)
 
*** action (synthesis)
 
  
  
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** Yet more holistically, in a more nonlinear fashion, they are inevitable.
 
** Yet more holistically, in a more nonlinear fashion, they are inevitable.
  
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* Lots of patterns of 3 in section 7.  Slow down and read carefully.
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** focalizer (Mother Supreme), summarizer (Almighty Supreme), encompasser (The Supreme Being)
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** source (the Paradise Trinity), function (the universe of activity), destiny (The Trinity Ultimate).
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*** The Trinity Ultimate: Deity nature coming together as one. 
  
  
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** Growth is the perfecting human spirit.
 
** Growth is the perfecting human spirit.
 
** A human's successes in these arenas are "reflected into" ("copied into") the Almighty via the Supreme Creators (e.g., our Creator Son)
 
** A human's successes in these arenas are "reflected into" ("copied into") the Almighty via the Supreme Creators (e.g., our Creator Son)
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* The Father-I AM.  What is this?
 +
** A monistic concept: only a single stuff in play
 +
** "Before" energy and spirit were differentiated.
 +
** The Supreme is how The Father-I AM escapes pure existential-ness.
 +
*** Father Deity has no capacity for experience... it is Father Deity!
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*** Mother Deity allows for capacity of experience.  Mother Deity is why the capacity for experience exists anywhere.
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*** The Father is not directly planning, in substance, down in time.  He stands outside of time.  And yet, he fits into all of this.

Revision as of 22:44, 14 July 2020

July 7, 2020 [Paper 115:7, p. 1266]

The Supreme Being cannot be fully appreciated without taking into consideration source, function, and destiny: relationship to the originating Trinity, the universe of activity, and the Trinity Ultimate of immediate destiny. He is the indispensable focalizer, summarizer, and encompasser of evolutionary experience, effectively unifying the results of this mode of reality perception in his Deity nature.

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Keywords: Urantia, Deity Focalization, Cosmic Summation, Mind Encompassment, The Ultimate Trinity

Note: This is Symmetry of Soul's 500th episode.



Notes by Brad

  • Being a serious student
    • Elevated, philosophic texts written by a true human (or superhuman) require careful reading.
      • The Urantia Book stands above all other great texts on earth. Nothing else comes close.
      • Knowing when read simplistically at face value, and when to reflect deeper to get at the complexity... that's an art that takes cultivation and practice.
    • Start with a philosophic frame (truth that can't be defined with words), then engage the facts (the words in the 5th ER).
      • To outsiders it will appear you're ad hoc rationalizing
      • But you can know better. Consistency is a philosophic concept, not a scientific concept.
    • Aim higher: Your goal: reach a level above controversy.'
      • A personal challenge: getting above controversy. Can you not being subject to it or ruled by it?
      • All controversy! Within the 5th ER. With all people. With politics. With everything under the sun.
      • Controversy is a product of subjective consciousness
      • Genuinely objective consciousness has no controversy. It has a peace that passes all understanding.
      • This does not mean being impassive, or repression.
      • It means an objective frame where you see the world from the eternity viewpoint.
    • Does The Urantia Book appear controversial?
      • If you don't engage it reflectively, you will find nothing but abject controversy.
      • A teacher of The Urantia Book who sees controversy in it is a false teacher.
    • Remember: We have, by grace, a reality response. We can take delight in cultivating reflective thinking


  • The Supreme is twofold in the finite domain
    • The Mother: downwelling from the top.
      • The essence of eternity is being brought down to time via mother Deity.
      • Only the essence of eternity is brought down. It's impossible to bring the substance of eternity into time.
      • From its observer vantage point, mother Deity can be the coordinator of all the facts of time.
      • Mother Deity is the observer of the growth observed.
      • The Mother itself does not grow, but "knows growth" because of this observer vantage point.
    • The Almighty: upwelling from the bottom.
      • All the facts of time are culminating, summing to this essence of the totality of all that is temporal.
      • The fact of growth is based on the Absolute Actuals.
      • The ability for something to be growing comes out of the Absolute Potentials.
    • Supremacy is superadditively above finity.
      • You don't just add power and personality together. You super-add them, and get above the finite.
      • The Supreme Being transcendently stands above the finite, in the absonite, as The Supreme Mind. The encompasser.


  • The Mother is the way.
    • It downwells thoroughly. It spans all of the temporal domain in a smooth continuum-ness.
    • No matter where you are in your long upward ascent, The Mother can meet you where you're at and provide that next infinitesimally tiny step forward.
    • By contrast, The Sevenfold—the facet of Deity—spans vertically but is more of a discrete staircase instead of a continuum.
      • Hence, we'd say The Sevenfold downsteps, whereas The Mother extends down.
    • Jesus said "I am the way."
      • Yes, that's true. Jesus is an expression of the Sevenfold—a downstepping phenomenon showing you a way to ascend.
      • But Jesus is not magical. How does his Spirit of Truth ministry reach you individually? Just magically across space? No.
      • Jesus' Spirit of Truth reaches you via Mother Deity. Which is why The Mother is The Way.
      • Jesus' seemingly simple, bold statement requires reflection to fully appreciate its truest sense.


  • What are the spirit persons within the Supreme? On a conceptual level? [106:2.2]
    • Spirit personality: The Mother Supreme, the downwelling
    • Evolutionary Power: The Almighty Supreme, the upwelling, summing, culminating
    • Power-personality synthesis: The Supreme Being, aka The Supreme Mind
      • Also aka The Supreme Father, as in the downstepping of The Universal Father to the total finite.
      • Personality is the root. Power is added to personality. This is top-down.
    • A familiar threefold order: unity, individuality, associativity.
      • The first 2 of these are "down in" the finite.
      • The third is "above and encompassing" in the absonite level. The associative aspect encompasses the other two.


  • The absolute actuality is: energy, spirit, and mind.
  • The Paradise Isle, Second Source and Center, Third Source and Center.
    • But think about the purposing of these actualities we see in [115:7.3]:
      • power (purposed energy)
      • personality (spirit pattern)
      • action (synthesis)


  • The Supreme is an intrinsic part of the design of the universes of time and space.
    • Without the Supreme, you'd have no context/place in which to exist.
    • Note [115:7.2] alludes to the eight-fold path to progress: effort, perseverance (determination), faith...
      • The eight-fold path to progress also is an intrinsic part of the design of our universe.


  • Why is the Paradise Trinity inevitable?
    • Well, the 7 Absolutes of Infinity need some coordinating influence!
    • Also, the Infinite Spirit is not acting alone in creating beings; behind the scenes the Paradise Trinity must be involved because of all the patterns of 3 and 7 in the creating of these beings.
  • But The Supreme and The Ultimate are not directly obviously inevitabilities from the I AM
    • Yet more holistically, in a more nonlinear fashion, they are inevitable.


  • Lots of patterns of 3 in section 7. Slow down and read carefully.
    • focalizer (Mother Supreme), summarizer (Almighty Supreme), encompasser (The Supreme Being)
    • source (the Paradise Trinity), function (the universe of activity), destiny (The Trinity Ultimate).
      • The Trinity Ultimate: Deity nature coming together as one.


  • Your growth and development
    • Development is foundational. For humans, this is our progressing mind.
    • Growth is the perfecting human spirit.
    • A human's successes in these arenas are "reflected into" ("copied into") the Almighty via the Supreme Creators (e.g., our Creator Son)


  • The Father-I AM. What is this?
    • A monistic concept: only a single stuff in play
    • "Before" energy and spirit were differentiated.
    • The Supreme is how The Father-I AM escapes pure existential-ness.
      • Father Deity has no capacity for experience... it is Father Deity!
      • Mother Deity allows for capacity of experience. Mother Deity is why the capacity for experience exists anywhere.
      • The Father is not directly planning, in substance, down in time. He stands outside of time. And yet, he fits into all of this.