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==Notes by Brad==
 
==Notes by Brad==
  
* [[It's in your freewill hands]] as concerns spirit influence over adjutant-mind spirit ministry.
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* [[It's in your freewill hands]] as concerns spirit influence over adjutant-mind spirit ministry in your mind.
** They act in their lower energy modes (e.g. zeal) naturally.  But your will can make it its higher function (e.g. worship)
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** These act in their lower energy modes (e.g. zeal) naturally.  But your will can make them obtain their higher function (e.g. worship)
** They don't confer the spirit of worship on your. You ennoble it from above to become that spirit of worship.
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** They don't confer the spirit of worship on you! You ennoble them from above with your own free will!
 
** Do you really think, by grace, you'd have the full encompassment of the spirit of wisdom?
 
** Do you really think, by grace, you'd have the full encompassment of the spirit of wisdom?
 
*** Sounds like the Lucifer rebellion--do you think you are innately divine?
 
*** Sounds like the Lucifer rebellion--do you think you are innately divine?
** Zeal is definitely tricky.
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** the 6th adjutant (zeal/worship) is definitely tricky.
*** Ideas are fine.  theories are fine.  But energizing them with "join me in this great cause" isproblematic.
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*** Ideas are fine.  Theories are fine.  But energizing them with "join me in this great cause" is problematic. A lot of conspiracy theories fall into this problematic mode, among 1,001 other things in life today.
** The very first time the 6th and 7th adjutants functioned here, they didn't even have the Holy Spirit (it was encircuited shortly thereafter)
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** You can't build a better mind yourself though.  It's grown in you.  Supply [[favorable conditions]].
*** We recapitulate this in our own lives, too.
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*** Just as a physical bodies needs favorable conditions for growth, so does the mind and spirit.   
** You can't build a better mind yoursewlf though.  It's grown in you.  Supply [[favorable conditions]].
 
** Just as a physical bodies needs favorable conditions for growth, so does the mind and spirit.   
 
 
*** It's really one triune energy system, after all.
 
*** It's really one triune energy system, after all.
  
  
 
* Does it feel like we now live in cursed times?  A black ooze everywhere and disfavor with the gods?
 
* Does it feel like we now live in cursed times?  A black ooze everywhere and disfavor with the gods?
** It's inescapable.  Thoughts of purity.
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** It's inescapable.  Thoughts of purity.  and stress causing individuals and society to revert to more primitive modes of responding to life.
 
** Can you avoid letting that run endlessly?  It's quite self-destructive, after all.
 
** Can you avoid letting that run endlessly?  It's quite self-destructive, after all.
 
** Can you exercise self-control?  Use reason?   
 
** Can you exercise self-control?  Use reason?   
** can you have overcontrol of your fear impulse?
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** Can you exercise proper overcontrol of your fear impulse?
** Do it improperly, you spread the fear of the moment out to dread--out to infinity, as it were.
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*** Do it improperly, you spread the fear of the moment out to dread--out to infinity, as it were.
** It's also possible, in the material-comfort era, to forget what dread felt like.
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** It's also possible, in our material-comfort era, to forget what dread is all about, what it feels like.
** Dread can actually motivate you in primitive times (I am tired of dreading tomorrow!  I will do something about it!).
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*** Or why it's there by design: dread can actually motivate you ("I am tired of dreading tomorrow!  I will do something about it!")
*** Perhaps panic buying is a manifestation of this?  A sense of asserting control in the face of dread and distress.
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*** Perhaps panic grocery buying is a manifestation of this?  A sense of asserting control in the face of dread and distress.
*** It's a complex phenomenon, when the mind washes hither and yon, as it may.
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** It's a complex phenomenon, the mind sloshing hither and yon untethered like a firehose.
*** It eventually leads to the waking life resembling dream life.  And people report such experiences in times like this.
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*** It eventually can result in waking life feeling like dream life.  And people report such experiences in times like this.
** "Get a hold of yourself?"
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*** "Be collected. No more amazement. Tell your piteous heart there’s no harm done." --Prospero, from The Tempest
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*** The animal you will always fear death.  The 5th ER doesn't dispel this away.  Your mortal self died.
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* "Get a hold of yourself" remains a relevant exclamation in these times.
*** Grace is about something ''above'' your mortal self that does go on.
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** "Be collected. No more amazement. Tell your piteous heart there’s no harm done." --Prospero, from The Tempest
*** Can you identify more with your potentially immortal self in times like this?
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** The animal you will always fear death.  The 5th ER doesn't dispel this away.  Your mortal self died.
*** Establish real trust in eternity.
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** Grace is about something ''above'' your mortal self that does go on.
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** Can you identify more with your potentially immortal self in times like this?
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** Establish real trust in eternity.
  
  
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** Do we desire this caliber of character?  Then continuous and gratuitous insult was inevitable!
 
** Do we desire this caliber of character?  Then continuous and gratuitous insult was inevitable!
 
** And we are potential agondonters, our world is full of tribulation more than many other mortalspheres.
 
** And we are potential agondonters, our world is full of tribulation more than many other mortalspheres.
 
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** Every actuality is a potentiality.  It's in your freewill hands.
 
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*** You can grow in relation to a difficulty, or be crushed by it.  Always. Always. Always.
* Every actuality is a potentiality.  It's in your freewill hands.
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** Everything for us in life is a test.   
** You can grow in relation to a difficulty, or be crushed by it.  Always. Always. Always.
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*** Not an eternal test, of course.  But can you not be "continuously and gratuitously insulted" by the news of the hour, and the empty grocery store shelves?
** Everything is a test.  Not an eternal test, of course.  But can you not be "continuously and gratuitously insulted" by the news of the hour, and the empty grocery store shelves?
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*** Pilate was on trial.  We each are on trial.
*** Pilate was on trial.  Today we each are on trial today.
 
 
*** Do you know truth? Do you obey truth?  Or do you rage like the heathen?
 
*** Do you know truth? Do you obey truth?  Or do you rage like the heathen?
*** Can you be collected even when the news cycle tries to make you behave like an animal?
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** Can you be collected even when the news cycle tries to make you behave like an animal?
  
  
 
* Jesus wasn't really blasphemous, but in the subjective non-reality of the Sanhedrists, he was.
 
* Jesus wasn't really blasphemous, but in the subjective non-reality of the Sanhedrists, he was.
** They let their [[isms]] get out of control.  And to them it was purple-faced, garment-rending subjective blasphemy.
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** They let their [[isms]] get out of control.  And to them Jesus evoked purple-faced, garment-rending subjective rage with his supposedblasphemy.
  
  
 
* Consecrating your will to God the Father's will.  How do you do it truly?
 
* Consecrating your will to God the Father's will.  How do you do it truly?
** You can start with the initiation of God the father.
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** You start with the initiation of God the father.
 
** But to uphold this choice--to make it '''true'''--you need consecration to the whole, to God the Mother.
 
** But to uphold this choice--to make it '''true'''--you need consecration to the whole, to God the Mother.
** You cannot even truly love without this wholeness.   
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*** You cannot even truly love without this wholeness.   
*** Instead of a benign virus of love, you'd get a malignant virus.
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**** Instead of a benign virus of love, you'd get a malignant virus.
 
** God the Father can make it '''real'''.  But only God the Mother can make it '''true'''.
 
** God the Father can make it '''real'''.  But only God the Mother can make it '''true'''.
  
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* Instead of mere self-possession (overcoming your anger), can you strive to be a true human, to have '''great''' self-possession (not even get angry)?
 
* Instead of mere self-possession (overcoming your anger), can you strive to be a true human, to have '''great''' self-possession (not even get angry)?
 
** And recall that anger is just the other side of the coin of impatience ([48:7], mota item #18)
 
** And recall that anger is just the other side of the coin of impatience ([48:7], mota item #18)
** And even beyond patience, there is longsuffering.
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** And even beyond patience, there is long-suffering.
  
  
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*** Which speaks to us today, in these strange times.
 
*** Which speaks to us today, in these strange times.
 
** If you cannot focus, you certainly have no capacity to have wisdom, insight, or foresight.   
 
** If you cannot focus, you certainly have no capacity to have wisdom, insight, or foresight.   
*** You can't even get to the first of the [[three cosmic intuitions]] without.  It's called the logical '''acumen''' for heaven's sake!  (acumen means "brought to a point")
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*** You can't even get to the first of the [[three cosmic intuitions]] without focusThat first one is called the logical '''acumen''' for heaven's sake!  (acumen means "brought to a point")
 
*** Be focused, not fuzzy, in your thinking.
 
*** Be focused, not fuzzy, in your thinking.
 
** David Z. seems biased toward his individuality consciousness, allowing him to focus more easily.
 
** David Z. seems biased toward his individuality consciousness, allowing him to focus more easily.
 
*** Which is unusual for a follower of Jesus, usually more likely biased to their unity consciousness.
 
*** Which is unusual for a follower of Jesus, usually more likely biased to their unity consciousness.
 
** David tended to see things clearly in these stressful times, while even Jesus' apostles were taken to illusions or even utterly disordered minds.
 
** David tended to see things clearly in these stressful times, while even Jesus' apostles were taken to illusions or even utterly disordered minds.
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* "Five or six tents" -- could the Midwayers' records possibly not even be infinitely precise?
 
  
  
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** And all the way over to the west, to Alexandria.
 
** And all the way over to the west, to Alexandria.
 
** They started running with 5 minutes of Jesus being taken away for crucifixion.  He was loaded and ready to go.
 
** They started running with 5 minutes of Jesus being taken away for crucifixion.  He was loaded and ready to go.
 
 
* Note:Nicodemus was a member of the Sanhedrin, but didn't want Jesus killed
 
** He was a Pharisee, not a Saducee.
 
  
  
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* This author notes that many are saying "I'm so bored!  What TV should I watch?  what should I do?" as they are ordered to stay at in seclusion right now as if they were an apostle.
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* Note: Nicodemus was a member of the Sanhedrin, but didn't want Jesus killed.  He was a Pharisee, not a Saducee.
** what you elect to read, how you decide to allocate your time right now, is up to you.
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* Note: "Five or six tents" -- could the Midwayers' records possibly not even be infinitely precise?
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* This author notes: many this week say,"I'm so bored!  What TV should I watch?  what should I do?" as they remain at in seclusion in their homes like so many apostles in hiding.
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** What you elect to read, how you decide to allocate your time right now, is up to you.
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** How you elect to use your mind in times like these is in your freewill hands.
 
** What if you came out of these troubled times more educated and reflective on the 5th Epochal Relevation?   
 
** What if you came out of these troubled times more educated and reflective on the 5th Epochal Relevation?   
 
** we invite you to use this website, our archived recordings, and [http://perfectinghorizonsinstitute.org/Library.htm] to enhance your time at home especially in the coming days and/or weeks.
 
** we invite you to use this website, our archived recordings, and [http://perfectinghorizonsinstitute.org/Library.htm] to enhance your time at home especially in the coming days and/or weeks.

Revision as of 03:16, 25 March 2020

March 24, 2020 [Paper 186:2.5-3.5, p. 1999]

Jesus had acquired that type of human character which could preserve its composure and assert its dignity in the face of continued and gratuitous insult. He could not be intimidated. Jesus revealed to all beings the manner in which God can become manifest in the life of the creature when such a creature truly chooses to do the will of the Father, thus becoming an active son of the living God.

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Keywords: Urantia, Jesus, Simple Dignity, Unostentatious Majesty, Dependable David Zebedee



Notes by Brad

  • It's in your freewill hands as concerns spirit influence over adjutant-mind spirit ministry in your mind.
    • These act in their lower energy modes (e.g. zeal) naturally. But your will can make them obtain their higher function (e.g. worship)
    • They don't confer the spirit of worship on you! You ennoble them from above with your own free will!
    • Do you really think, by grace, you'd have the full encompassment of the spirit of wisdom?
      • Sounds like the Lucifer rebellion--do you think you are innately divine?
    • the 6th adjutant (zeal/worship) is definitely tricky.
      • Ideas are fine. Theories are fine. But energizing them with "join me in this great cause" is problematic. A lot of conspiracy theories fall into this problematic mode, among 1,001 other things in life today.
    • You can't build a better mind yourself though. It's grown in you. Supply favorable conditions.
      • Just as a physical bodies needs favorable conditions for growth, so does the mind and spirit.
      • It's really one triune energy system, after all.


  • Does it feel like we now live in cursed times? A black ooze everywhere and disfavor with the gods?
    • It's inescapable. Thoughts of purity. and stress causing individuals and society to revert to more primitive modes of responding to life.
    • Can you avoid letting that run endlessly? It's quite self-destructive, after all.
    • Can you exercise self-control? Use reason?
    • Can you exercise proper overcontrol of your fear impulse?
      • Do it improperly, you spread the fear of the moment out to dread--out to infinity, as it were.
    • It's also possible, in our material-comfort era, to forget what dread is all about, what it feels like.
      • Or why it's there by design: dread can actually motivate you ("I am tired of dreading tomorrow! I will do something about it!")
      • Perhaps panic grocery buying is a manifestation of this? A sense of asserting control in the face of dread and distress.
    • It's a complex phenomenon, the mind sloshing hither and yon untethered like a firehose.
      • It eventually can result in waking life feeling like dream life. And people report such experiences in times like this.


  • "Get a hold of yourself" remains a relevant exclamation in these times.
    • "Be collected. No more amazement. Tell your piteous heart there’s no harm done." --Prospero, from The Tempest
    • The animal you will always fear death. The 5th ER doesn't dispel this away. Your mortal self died.
    • Grace is about something above your mortal self that does go on.
    • Can you identify more with your potentially immortal self in times like this?
    • Establish real trust in eternity.


  • Consider the inevitabilities when considering Jesus' character.
    • Do we desire this caliber of character? Then continuous and gratuitous insult was inevitable!
    • And we are potential agondonters, our world is full of tribulation more than many other mortalspheres.
    • Every actuality is a potentiality. It's in your freewill hands.
      • You can grow in relation to a difficulty, or be crushed by it. Always. Always. Always.
    • Everything for us in life is a test.
      • Not an eternal test, of course. But can you not be "continuously and gratuitously insulted" by the news of the hour, and the empty grocery store shelves?
      • Pilate was on trial. We each are on trial.
      • Do you know truth? Do you obey truth? Or do you rage like the heathen?
    • Can you be collected even when the news cycle tries to make you behave like an animal?


  • Jesus wasn't really blasphemous, but in the subjective non-reality of the Sanhedrists, he was.
    • They let their isms get out of control. And to them Jesus evoked purple-faced, garment-rending subjective rage with his supposedblasphemy.


  • Consecrating your will to God the Father's will. How do you do it truly?
    • You start with the initiation of God the father.
    • But to uphold this choice--to make it true--you need consecration to the whole, to God the Mother.
      • You cannot even truly love without this wholeness.
        • Instead of a benign virus of love, you'd get a malignant virus.
    • God the Father can make it real. But only God the Mother can make it true.


  • Instead of mere self-possession (overcoming your anger), can you strive to be a true human, to have great self-possession (not even get angry)?
    • And recall that anger is just the other side of the coin of impatience ([48:7], mota item #18)
    • And even beyond patience, there is long-suffering.


  • David Zebedee seemed to always be a step ahead, always have a plan. Methodical. And collected.
    • He seemed to be able to turn fear into focus.
      • Which speaks to us today, in these strange times.
    • If you cannot focus, you certainly have no capacity to have wisdom, insight, or foresight.
      • You can't even get to the first of the three cosmic intuitions without focus. That first one is called the logical acumen for heaven's sake! (acumen means "brought to a point")
      • Be focused, not fuzzy, in your thinking.
    • David Z. seems biased toward his individuality consciousness, allowing him to focus more easily.
      • Which is unusual for a follower of Jesus, usually more likely biased to their unity consciousness.
    • David tended to see things clearly in these stressful times, while even Jesus' apostles were taken to illusions or even utterly disordered minds.


  • Focus is something to strive for, even if your genetics don't predispose you to it.
    • You can be grown. Just be patient and someday you can transcend your genetics.
    • Though you also can spend a lifetime practicing the defocusing of your mind. Which is unfortunate.
    • But even if that's so, it you can just let go a bit, your mind can arbitrarily re-find some focus.
      • Vivid islands of thought will individuate certainly! But if it's a vivid of island of heat (instead of light), it might just make your subjective condition even worse.
      • Seek vivid islands of light, not vivid islands of heat, in your mind.
    • Perhaps a great actor can let illusions take total hold of them. and maybe that's fun on stage.
      • But that isn't focus. In a crisis, you need focus and sober thinking. No illusions.
      • Are you someone who has an illusion that light and life is nigh? You need focus! This is material-comfort era, sliding back into security and even nutrition eras. Not light & life!


  • Appreciate what kind of organization David Z has here.
    • Messengers went out far and wide, east and west of the Jordan River.
    • And all the way over to the west, to Alexandria.
    • They started running with 5 minutes of Jesus being taken away for crucifixion. He was loaded and ready to go.


  • Several references to David Z.'s literal and peculiar mind.
    • Most Urantia Book readers are not like David Z. They're unfocused and frothy.
    • So even if you weren't "born on third base" as regards focus, you eventually need to be grown to have focus.
    • That said, someone who is uber-focused may be very prosaic and miss the big picture, or have imagination to see other possibilities.
    • So, like most things, it's a balance here when it comes to maturity.


  • Note: Nicodemus was a member of the Sanhedrin, but didn't want Jesus killed. He was a Pharisee, not a Saducee.
  • Note: "Five or six tents" -- could the Midwayers' records possibly not even be infinitely precise?


  • This author notes: many this week say,"I'm so bored! What TV should I watch? what should I do?" as they remain at in seclusion in their homes like so many apostles in hiding.
    • What you elect to read, how you decide to allocate your time right now, is up to you.
    • How you elect to use your mind in times like these is in your freewill hands.
    • What if you came out of these troubled times more educated and reflective on the 5th Epochal Relevation?
    • we invite you to use this website, our archived recordings, and [1] to enhance your time at home especially in the coming days and/or weeks.