Episode:Jesus the Tutor—Sojourn at Rome (Part 6)

From Symmetry of Soul


Said Jesus to the Indian: “Your Buddha was much better than your Buddhism.  Buddha was a great man, even a prophet, but his experience was tragic.  He tried to live and teach as a messenger of God, but without God.  He knew God in spirit but failed clearly to discover him in mind; he failed to envision God as a spiritual Father.”

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Keywords: Urantia, Jesus, Religion, Philosophy, Salvation

Summary by Kermit

Commentary on the Review

We had a brief post-review discussion about the precision of language used by the revelators and noted that the attention we pay to this aspect of the revelation should not be seen as over intellectualization in our study. We further emphasized the importance of students to courageously and independently seek the truth of the revelation by experiential means inasmuch as truth cannot be defined with words, only by living. Mere belief in the words of either the revelation or the commentaries heard on this broadcast is of no avail in finding truth of the 5th ER.

132:6 Social Ministry

We cited the interesting use of the word restore in the narrative of Jesus and Ganid restoring a lost child to his mother. We looked at the word restore in the light of a spiritual parallel. In our post-Pentecost world by roughly age six mortals are encircuited in the Holy Spirit and receive Thought Adjusters by grace. This superconscious connection with eternity can be reinforced through cultivation or attenuated by the vicissitudes of life. Such is the human condition that with the passing of years the complexities of life and sophistication of manifold belief systems can leave many crying in fear and suffering in sorrow like the little boy in our narrative. Jesus calls to those so afflicted to be restored to their original grace given connection with eternity through the child-like faith grasp on sonship with the Heavenly Father.

This appeal is contrasted in our discussion with the traditional false doctrine of being asked to believe that we enter the world, by nature, sinful and unclean, thus not a state to which we would seek restoration. We continued on to compare the transcendent born again experience with the less definitive restoration to our original superconscious state of grace. We also examined the pitfalls of allowing the spiritual urge to serve descend into exclusively material forms. We are encouraged to extend material aid to the spiritual level even at the risk of overplaying our immediate spiritual, serviceability lest we remain material ministers.

The story of the widow with five children illustrates graduated phases of assistance from immediate help with daily necessities, as food and clothing, transitioning to longer term solutions, as in this case employment for the eldest son.

The section concludes with an intriguing interaction of Gonod with Jesus. Jesus, in responding to Gonod’s observation that Jesus is actually a philosopher and suggests that he write a book, stops mid-sentence on the threshold of declaring the substance of his bestowal mission. Our ensuing discussion led to comparing and contrasting the substance and the purposes of the 4th and 5th ERs. Listen to this full episode for details involved in promulgating the 4th ER without referencing the 5th. "The world needs to see Jesus living again on earth in the experience of spirit-born mortals who effectively reveal the Master to all men." [195:10.1]. On the other hand the 5th ER is answering questions that few are currently asking.

132:7. Trips About Rome

We examined the “physics” of mind and spirit in the thoughtless pagan whom the three met on their visit to the northern Italian lakes, and the futility of teaching a man about God if the man does not desire to know God. We also discussed the difference between being contented with your faith grasp of the supreme ideal of the infinite and eternal nature of God in contrast with a complacent satisfaction with your current ideas of God. For it is the supreme ideal which anchors you in eternity while still hungering and thirsting for ever more enhanced ideas of God.

It was on this trip, which reached all the way to Switzerland that Jesus addressed Gonod’s question as to what he thought of Buddha. Jesus gave a direct reply praising Buddha as a great man and a prophet. He also explained where Buddha lost his way, or better stopped short in losing sight of his spiritual Father, the Father in heaven, trying to live and teach as a messenger of God, but without God. The SoS discussion of Buddha’s accomplishments and the failure of the religion bearing his name (Buddhism) utilizing the hourglass analogy of the human mind is worthy of repeated listening.

So in Ganid’s entreaty that Jesus and he make a new religion good enough for India and big enough for Rome which they could trade to the Jews in exchange for Yahweh, they were unconsciously actually doing, notwithstanding that religions are not made. For that the enlightened and reflective human imagination of spiritual teaching and leading wholeheartedly and unselfishly wants to do and be, becomes measurably creative in accordance with the degree of mortal dedication to the divine doing of the Father’s will.